Why no "modification" area for us X5 owners?

[kimi_fan]

Yea, yea, the car is heavy as hell...but so is the X6 so why not?

On that topic, I had both a SSTT and JB (before anyone comments, not at the same time) for my 335i which I sold after getting rid of the car last year. Anyone tried the stage 1 JB for the 2011 X5 35i with the N55 yet? Thoughts? It doesn't list the 2011 X5 on the BMS site, so I was curious if it was compatible since it lists other N55 engines.

I did like the performace gains it gave me on the 335i with the N54 and would like to do something, however small, to the X5. I still remember the difference when I took it out to take it in for service and couldn't wait to throw it back on as soon as I got back home.

[Kloogy]

There is one user who has it. I'm sure he will chime in. I am waiting to see what other options pop up. If not, I'll get the JB

[D.B.S]

I have the JB3 N55 Tune, Yes I'm that guy, and It's a good Stage 1 product... It virtually eliminates the apparent lag that may or may not be noticible to you. You can only up the boost, maybe 2.5-3 psi, which isn't much, but every little bit helps.

I had the Procede V4 when I had my 335 and absolutely loved it, but very disappointed that Vishnu hasn't provided support for the X5 yet (it's in the works).

Terry by his own admissions is working very slowly on the Stage 2 version of the N55 tune. It's coming, but it won't be anytime soon, and what complicates things is that the way BMW programmed and set up the N55 X5 is very different than the E9X crowd... It's not going to be easy to just plug and play with the STG 2 product from BMS. The only piggy tuner that is currently working on getting X5 support in a fully functioning tune is Vishnu / Procede. Even terry conceeded to me that the N55 X5 programming may be different and will be a whole other animal to content with (N55 535 owners are in the same boat as us, so they won't be seeing support for a while either).

If you have any other questions on possible mods, check out the below, or PM me, and I'll try to answer any questions...

My Thread in regards to Modifications for the N55 X5.. (Not sure why the MODs haven't stickied this, seeing how it's had almost 3000 views and is revelant to modding the X5, but that's besides the point):
http://www.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=406709

[Kloogy]

I think BMW wised up to all the modding in the N54's and made the N55 slightly harder to tinker with. Can you really blame them ?

[D.B.S]

I don't blame them... BUT, you have cultures like the SCION (Toyota), Honda and other car cultures where modding seems to be the norm, and the Manufacturer's seem to support these cultures to the fullest. (i know there is a big difference between a BMW and a Scion) They want the owners of these cars to be different, to make modifications... Most people understand that if a mod breaks something in the car, it's gonna be something they have to pay out of their own pocket,

I don't see why BMW should be any different. If you break the part, you should be responsible and pay for it's replacement. BMW should support the fact that we love our cars, and want to make them perform even better than what was originally put out. They should love the fact that we keep coming back to them regardless of how much they are. And if we want to mod, sure go ahead, just understand that if you break the engine because of those upgraded turbo's, that's something you are going to have to pay out of your pocket

[kimi_fan]

I agree, but also think that most people would just remove the mod and say "oh, I don't know what happened it just blew up". Since I'm going to guess that is the case BMW's only option (to protect themselves) is play a cat and mouse game trying to keep us out of the electronics that run the engine. Being in information security for the past 11 years I can say that given enough time and money anything is breakable...so they will lose this battle in the long run.

I'm going to blame all of those damn e36 M3 owners and the blown engine controversy from "missed shifts" from back in the day

[Donibm]

BECAUSE THIS IS AMERICA. And that is the bottom line I think. Ppl mod thier X5 in Europe (it is a European car after all). Lumma. Harte. AC Sch. Hamann. Manasory. Tell you what, if you look at youtube videos, you will see tons of modded vehicles in Morroco, Dubai, UK, etc. Even the rear taillights on an X5 with the white strip. That isn't a US idea - it comes from Europe. I was going to do it to my X5 back in 2009. Now, it's only really starting to carch on here in USA.

Modded, plated, and kitted luxury cars are the norm, but Americans tend to like the stock look. I'm a British subject, so I like the kitted look. I only wish I could find more X5 and X6 owners who mod thier vehicles.

My car will look like:

Manaflow custom:

Example of what is in Dubai (Mall of Emerites):

And then there is this beast of an X5. It has AC Schnitzer falcon vents in the hood, a Lumma bonnet and front bumper, added LED lights to the bumper, I dunno what soft of rear bumper and roof extention is on the car:

[Kloogy]

There's a big difference in modding a Honda and a BMW. If I blow my motor in a Honduh, I can go find one at the local scrap yard for $100 bucks and a case of beer. Blow a fuel pump in an E92, and it will cost more than the tranny in the Civic.

[kimi_fan]

My question was, why isn't there an X5 mod area...if you look at the other forums, 3's, X6, etc. they all have a mod section and we don't. I don't think that means people don't want to mod their X5's. One of my previous cars was a 335i coupe and I was used to having a mod section....hence the "why no section" question for the X5.

I'm also confused as to why someone would lump all Americans into a single group and say they don't want to mod their cars, X5 or otherwise. I'd say the mod subculture exists everywhere, not just in the EU and middle east (although being oil rich can't hurt...i.e. The Sultan of Brunei's car collection). I'm not going to argue that the culture is stronger here or there, simply stating that it exists everywhere.

I think of modding a car as more than just exterior kits, new aero, etc. Can you "see" a Procede in a 335i? Does that not count as modded? If you'd like to see some modding in the US from the 1990's please see http://web.archive.org/web/199812050...ceboypage.com/ (joking of course).

[D.B.S]

Originally Posted by kimi_fan

My question was, why isn't there an X5 mod area...if you look at the other forums, 3's, X6, etc. they all have a mod section and we don't. I don't think that means people don't want to mod their X5's. One of my previous cars was a 335i coupe and I was used to having a mod section....hence the "why no section" question for the X5.

I'm also confused as to why someone would lump all Americans into a single group and say they don't want to mod their cars, X5 or otherwise. I'd say the mod subculture exists everywhere, not just in the EU and middle east (although being oil rich can't hurt...i.e. The Sultan of Brunei's car collection). I'm not going to argue that the culture is stronger here or there, simply stating that it exists everywhere.

I think of modding a car as more than just exterior kits, new aero, etc. Can you "see" a Procede in a 335i? Does that not count as modded? If you'd like to see some modding in the US from the 1990's please see http://web.archive.org/web/199812050...ceboypage.com/ (joking of course).

There would be a mod area for the X5 if the Moderators would sticky my thread on modding... Or Create a new area for modding information... Either would work (could even retitle my thread to X5 modding information, I don't care.)

I still visit e90post and comment on all the mods they do there, as I believe that could apply to the E70, and modding like you said is more than just about external appearance, it' includes performance as well... You may not see a procede in a 335, but you will experience the change when driving, or with an exhaust system, you may not see it, but you will hear it when it drives past... Modding can't be limited to just External "I can see it" type of thing, it has to include the whole gamet of equipment that is available... Maybe we should petition the Admin's to create a performance / Modding /Modification section in the X5 area of the site... Seeing how the X6 people have one, why don't we...?

Just PM'd the administrator to find out if this will be possible

[Sean18337]

[QUOTE]kimi_fan;8892876]My question was, why isn't there an X5 mod area...if you look at the other forums, 3's, X6, etc. they all have a mod section and we don't.[QUOTE]

I was wondering the same thing!!

[Donibm]

Originally Posted by kimi_fan

My question was, why isn't there an X5 mod area...if you look at the other forums, 3's, X6, etc. they all have a mod section and we don't. I don't think that means people don't want to mod their X5's. One of my previous cars was a 335i coupe and I was used to having a mod section....hence the "why no section" question for the X5.

I'm also confused as to why someone would lump all Americans into a single group and say they don't want to mod their cars, X5 or otherwise. I'd say the mod subculture exists everywhere, not just in the EU and middle east (although being oil rich can't hurt...i.e. The Sultan of Brunei's car collection). I'm not going to argue that the culture is stronger here or there, simply stating that it exists everywhere.

I think of modding a car as more than just exterior kits, new aero, etc. Can you "see" a Procede in a 335i? Does that not count as modded? If you'd like to see some modding in the US from the 1990's please see http://web.archive.org/web/199812050...ceboypage.com/ (joking of course).

I kinda got off track in my answer. I think its because #1, modding an X5 is expensive, and the only real mods for it come from well-known modding companies like Harte, Hamaan, G-Power, Lumma, etc. These guys aren't cheap. #2: More folk mod cars than SUVs. Take a trip to the M3 and 5 and 6 series forums right here and you'll see tons of modded rods. #3 X5 drivers are punks. Really. Tons of haters in this forum. But when you go into the other forums, there is mad love for everything. Over here ... I dunno. Create a page and out come the haters. Plus, over here in X5 land, lot of people prefer OEM, but in the other forums, its the "difference" that is interesting, not the same look that we see on every 3rd vehicle.

Even on cardomain.com The X5s that are posted there are basically stock. It's boring.

X6 owners tend to mod thier vehicles more heavily.