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      12-31-2014, 08:35 AM   #1
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Recalls on x5 5.0 (N63 engine)

Greetings. Just at the dealer, Nalley in Atlanta. Sa told me there are two recalls on my car having to do with broken timing chain. Bmw is holding off though because the reprogram is not working so the other option is to remove engine from the car and replace the chain. She said she has s vehicle that has been in for two months with the issue.

Nothing related to injectors though.

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Recall or Service Bulletin nr, please?
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      12-31-2014, 09:12 AM   #3
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She said recall.
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      12-31-2014, 11:51 AM   #4
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Just saw this:
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This is a 2-part campaign by BMW for cars with the N63 engine. It was announced on 12/29/2014 and called "N63 Customer Care Package", bulletin B001314. The highlights are:

- check the timing chain for stretch; replace if necessary
- check the following items and replace if necessary: fuel injectors, mass air flow sensors, crankcase vent lines, battery, engine vacuum pump, low pressure fuel sensor
- change the oil service interval to 12 months/10,000 miles

Even if your car is out of warranty (ie, 5 years old and has 200k miles), it is covered by this campaign and costs the owner nothing. The dealers are instructed to call all N63 owners in their area and schedule the cars to come in for this service, pending the dealership's availability. The dealership is instructed to provide a loaner car of equal or higher class to the customer (per N63 Customer Care Package Outbound Service Script document).

BMW is also offering extra incentives for owners affected by this campaign to trade in their N63 vehicle and purchase a new car (called the N63 Customer Loyalty Offer, details in a separate sales bulletin).

Also associated with this campaign is the "N63 Customer Appreciation Program". The dealerships are authorized to provide the customer with a gift of $50 value. This could be a gas card, gift bag containing BMW Lifestyle products, vehicle detailing,etc.
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I mean, could you post the recall number, please? That way we can look it up.

Never mind ... Thanks TinyRK!

This sounds like trouble ... keeping an eye on it.
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Here are the affected vehicles:

N63 Powered:
F01 and F02 (7 Series Sedan) produced from 3/2009 to 6/2012
F04 (Active Hybrid 7) produced from 4/2010 to 6/2012
F07 (Gran Turismo) produced from 9/2009 to 6/2012
F10 (5 Series Sedan) produced from 3/2010 to 7/2013
F12 (6 Series Convertible) produced from 3/2011 to 7/2012
F13 (6 Series Coupe) produced from 7/2011 to 7/2012
E70 (X5) produced from 3/2010 to 6/2013
E71 (X6) produced from 7/2008 to 6/2014
E72 (ActiveHybrid X6) produced from 9/2009 to 9/2011


The Following is Checked under the customer care package and replaced if needed:

Hot-Film Air Mass Sensors
PIEZO High Pressure Fuel Injectors
Engine Vacuum Pump
Fuel System Low Pressure Sensor/Feed Line
Fresh Air Intake Turbo Seals
Crankcase Ventilation Lines (Hoses)
Timing Chain

Battery will also be replaced on specific cars
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      01-02-2015, 07:58 AM   #7
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Mine is going in on Monday for a battery issue so I will make sure that they look at all of these issues.
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any chance a similar bulletin would come out for s63? Ive had almost everything done on the list except timing chain...I expect it will be next.
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      01-02-2015, 03:26 PM   #9
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So glad I did some google searching today. I've had my 2011 X5 5.0 in for this issue last winter and they replaced the battery. Vehicle came out of warranty on 11/29/14. Right before then we get the increased battery discharge message". Now out of warranty I was looking into extended maintenance/warranty. Before I sign-off I will be dropping off the vehicle for this recall. Will provide updates as they become available.
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      01-02-2015, 07:13 PM   #10
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I spoke to my SA this afternoon about this recall. She was aware of it but didn't have very much information. She plugged in the last 7 of my VIN and confirmed my vehicle was flagged in BMW's system as part of the recall, which she said gives me the green light to schedule an appt. to have it looked it. She said to request a service loaner vehicle for 2 days to allow a full inspection (and yes longer if everything on the list needed to be done).

I'm gonna wait a little while and see how this plays out. I'd rather have my X5 go in after the techs have seen/fixed a few of these.
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      01-02-2015, 07:47 PM   #11
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any chance a similar bulletin would come out for s63? Ive had almost everything done on the list except timing chain...I expect it will be next.
Wondering the same. The N63 recall items seem similar to reported S63 issues. Except the timing chain.
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      01-02-2015, 08:16 PM   #12
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I'm wondering about the loaner car of "equal or higher class". It was never really an issue when I'd take my 335 in because a 328 is comparable enough. However BMW Seattle doesn't even have any X5s in their loaner fleet and the X3 and X1 they've given me for the recent visits are not even close to comparable. If I'm going to bring my car in for potentially a month long service I don't want to be stuck in an X1 again, hopefully they bring in some X5s as part of this massive recall.
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Among other things, I was getting the battery discharge message also. I put in a new battery approx. two months ago, started getting the message again. When they replaced my seals last month, SA said I would have to pay $450.00 for a discharge test. Glad I did not do it. Going in on Tuesday.
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Wondering the same. The N63 recall items seem similar to reported S63 issues. Except the timing chain.
Plus one about the S63 as well, seems like these issues aren't just being experienced by N63 owners. While I don't recall specifically, but I think i have heard of timing chain for the S63 as well, not sure if they are just extraneous cases or not.
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Does anyone know what the incentive value of the N63 Customer Loyalty Offer is?
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      01-06-2015, 11:47 AM   #16
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Taking mine in today, and I will be sure to mention this to them when dropping off.

I'll report back details once they have a chance to look at it.
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My X5 just had the battery issue taken care of today. It is now booked for 1/26 to go under the knife and check on all of the other major issues. My SA said that they have known about this and was expecting it to come any day as the engine is just eating oil. They will replace my injectors, some lines, and check on everything listed in the bulletin. BMW as approved them to also fix ANYTHING they see if necessary once they get in there. I joked and said to throw in new turbo's while they are in there. He said that what they are fixing is the only known issues to this engine so it should be good to go for long haul. Only time will tell. I would make your appointment now as this will back them up for awhile.

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He said that what they are fixing is the only known issues to this engine so it should be good to go for long haul.
That's the million dollar question: will this recall significantly improve the 50i reliability? I've had mine for 4 months and it's been in 3 times already. I love the car, but I don't want to be a slave to repairs. Really hoping this makes a difference.
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... will this recall significantly improve the 50i reliability?
No.

Based on BMW's history since about the mid 90's, reliability is a hit-or-miss ...

It also depends on what your definition of "reliability" is .... is. And what you're willing and able to tolerate in return for driving the Ultimate Driving machine.

IMO, compared to other brands, they're going downhill. But the driving experience is unique ... and at the same time, my personal tolerance level is inversely proportional to sub par quality.
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Recall info:

http://www.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1076446
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