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good luck with the new engine.. 10k expense to the car coming from no where is not pleasant but if you re not planning to sell your car it ll mean you ll have reliable engine for 2-3 years at least.. S63 actually is great engine but X5-X6 is too heavy for this engine.. it puts too much stress on the engine to carry the weight.. i guess newer generation S63's are better and you got one of them now.. good luck after break in..
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Update from the warranty company and my shop!
The warranty company found a used S63TU with 75K miles on it they want to have put in. The total cost out of my pocket for the job is going to be roughly $3K including replacing the rod bearings in the used engine, replacing the turbos and all gaskets/fluids. The warranty company is picking up $14.5K of the cost for the job. This is option 1. This could all be done in the next week. Option 2... Remove engine block and send it to Troy Jeup or Ghassan Automotive for a rebuild. Once engine is returned, put it all back together and have a fully rebuilt engine. Total cost out of my pocket jumps up a bit to around $5K. This process will likely take well over a month. I'll be honest, I'm torn. I love the idea of getting a fully rebuilt engine, but I'm a bit nervous about shipping the engine off to an unknown shop(both have some terrible reviews). I'm also missing driving the vehicle and my wife is getting sick of daily driving the M3(I'm borrowing her X5 35D) as it's just not that comfortable. Anyone with experience with either ghassan or troy jeup have any additional information on how long the rebuild process takes? Any thoughts on my options from people who have faced similar situations?
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Made easier for me because we have a second and third car. Made easier for you because all the parts you'd be using he has clear line of sight to now because we had to research them extensively to ensure their function on my non-TU build. |
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If you've got the option for the minor inconvenience, I'd absolutely go rebuilt considering your costs vs what it'd cost outta pocket knowing they're gonna fix the issues that caused you to be where you are in the first place. I'm still kicking myself for spending $2800 (including labor) to swap in a used N54 only to have it fail 10k later for another known N54 issue...vs the $3500 I could have paid for a rebuilt with fixed issues and not wasted a week. Swapping in a used one is putting off the inevitable the it seems to be plaguing many of the modern BMW engines.
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We had picture swaps during the teardown and build process including the meticulous pieces of weighing rods, pistons, bearings, etc to make sure the build was as close to blueprint as possible. I've lived with speed shop builds in other states (Texas) and had nothing but crappy tales to tell. This was different. It was overdelivery and so much so that it made and makes me an advocate for Gee continuously today. Same offer goes to you and anyone else on the forum... if it starts going downhill I'll drive the hour and a half to Stillwater myself and nut punch him on your behalf. I just don't think he's ever going to need it. |
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I've tried to do as much reading on the subject as I could after hearing of the issues. Really all that we can do care for the cars as best we can unless you're willing to tear apart a motor that may be completely fine. Change the oil every 5-7k, check oil levels like a hawk, and follow proper warm up and cool down procedures.
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And they are M cars so they're meant to be driven hard not babied - just need to follow proper procedures.
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Here's the oil and thermostat that Troy Jeup recommends for ALL S63 engines. Anybody know what Ghassan Automotive recommends? A Blackstone oil analysis may be in order for me...
Disclaimer: 3 things people never agree on: religion, politics, and the brand/weight of motor oil to use.
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I have been thinking about getting the colder thermostat....haven't looked into how involved of an install it is though.
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Another update...
I have been unable to connect with either Troy or Ghassan over the past few days so I've come up with an alternative. Here's what I came up with and my mechanic thought may be a good solution. We will go ahead with the used engine with 75K miles and before putting it in, replace everything we can think that could fail. We aren't talking about a full ground up rebuild, but all the things that these engines are known for. The cost different out of pocket to send my blown engine to Ghassan and have them do the rebuild is nearly $3K. If I spend that $3k refurbishing the replacement engine(which has 25K less miles than my blown engine on it), I'll come away with a lower miles core and all possible failures fixed before the engine gets installed. Am I crazy? Is this doable? The bigger basic things I thought we should replace on the used engine: - Rod Bearings - Valve Stem Gaskets - Timing Chain Here's where I would welcome ANY and ALL info/feedback from people familiar with the S63... What else should I replace? Are there any other major failure points in these S63s? Any input would be very much appreciated!
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Interesting YouTube video of a teardown & rebuild of a S63 engine in 9 parts by Tasos Moschatos.
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