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      04-21-2016, 02:54 PM   #243
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I do give a couple of dollars to the Uber driver assuming the car was clean, they weren't burning incense etc.

As for the Uber fee here in N.O., that's news to me but I never take Uber from the airport. Taking a regular cab to downtown will easily be $50 plus a tip. Ultimately the cab companies here are a very vocal bunch and much like a union and they were strongly opposed to allowing Uber. I suppose this was a concession to the cab drivers/companies...
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Tell us how you tip....%...$$ amount.
So when I dine out I still haven't exactly found a formula for tipping.....but I'm usually good for 10% assuming the server was competent enough to be courteous and no spill food or drink on our group.
I will not give tips to incompetence(messing up order completely or rudeness)
Tell us what disqualifies a server from getting a tip from you.
Move the decimal point to the left by 1 spot and multiply by two for exceptional service.

$25.00 (move decimal point over) $2.50 (multiply by 2) $5.000 = 20% tip.

Move the decimal point to the left by 1 spot, divide that in half, and add to the original number for anything less than exceptional service (15%).

$25.00 (move decimal point over) $2.50 (halve and add to original $2.50) $3.75 = 15% tip.

I have never had an instance where I felt I did not have to tip. It can be tough to determine who made the mistake... the kitchen or the wait staff? I tip delivery drivers about the same if a bit less. I have heard of people not tipping drivers because they took forever, but most of the time I would imagine that is the kitchen/management's fault.
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Care to expand why you don't tip?
Other parts of the world don't tip. It's just the good ol' US of A that demands tips.
This is true. In other countries the employer is responsible for the salary for their employees and not the customer. The employees are employed by their employer and not by the customers of their employer. If the customer wishes to leave a tip it is great but if not they should not be upset as they are employed by their employer. If they are not happy with their wages they should take it up with their boss. We do not know how their boss pays them and what the laws and rules of each country,state,city and restaurants are. We also should not have to worry about their income and salary when we go out to eat. Their employer is responsible for their salary.

I do not tip the cabin crew 20% of my airline fare for bringing me food,drinks and snacks on my 14 hour flight to Asia or America. Not my responsibility to know if she was paid right or underpaid when I board a flight and travel abroad. The same goes for business class passengers they do not need to fork out another 10-20% more in their $2000-4000 ticket because they were served foods and drinks on their flight
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This is true. In other countries the employer is responsible for the salary for their employees and not the customer. The employees are employed by their employer and not by the customers of their employer. If the customer wishes to leave a tip it is great but if not they should not be upset as they are employed by their employer. If they are not happy with their wages they should take it up with their boss. We do not know how their boss pays them and what the laws and rules of each country,state,city and restaurants are. We also should not have to worry about their income and salary when we go out to eat. Their employer is responsible for their salary.

I do not tip the cabin crew 20% of my airline fare for bringing me food,drinks and snacks on my 14 hour flight to Asia or America. Not my responsibility to know if she was paid right or underpaid when I board a flight and travel abroad. The same goes for business class passengers they do not need to fork out another 10-20% more in their $2000-4000 ticket because they were served foods and drinks on their flight
True. The question is, once you DO know, how do you use that information? That part is on you. How the companies behave is on them. Someone shouldn't nearly drown, but if you see that, do you choose to save them anyway?
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I leave this:
http://www.techinsider.io/20-tip-bible-pamphlet-2015-12

Most servers/bartenders are in need and crying out for help
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I leave this:
http://www.techinsider.io/20-tip-bible-pamphlet-2015-12

Most servers/bartenders are in need and crying out for help
I am certain that servers everywhere (other than the one Twitter person in the article) sincerely appreciate your altruism. I am sure your gift to humanity will not go unnoticed.

Edit: Also, I highly recommend not going to the same place twice.
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I leave this:
http://www.techinsider.io/20-tip-bible-pamphlet-2015-12

Most servers/bartenders are in need and crying out for help
Haha that's not a christian, that's a terrorist!!!!! The shameeeeee
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I am certain that servers everywhere (other than the one Twitter person in the article) sincerely appreciate your altruism. I am sure your gift to humanity will not go unnoticed.

Edit: Also, I highly recommend not going to the same place twice.
Please elaborate further.
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This is true. In other countries the employer is responsible for the salary for their employees and not the customer. The employees are employed by their employer and not by the customers of their employer. If the customer wishes to leave a tip it is great but if not they should not be upset as they are employed by their employer. If they are not happy with their wages they should take it up with their boss. We do not know how their boss pays them and what the laws and rules of each country,state,city and restaurants are. We also should not have to worry about their income and salary when we go out to eat. Their employer is responsible for their salary.

I do not tip the cabin crew 20% of my airline fare for bringing me food,drinks and snacks on my 14 hour flight to Asia or America. Not my responsibility to know if she was paid right or underpaid when I board a flight and travel abroad. The same goes for business class passengers they do not need to fork out another 10-20% more in their $2000-4000 ticket because they were served foods and drinks on their flight
True. The question is, once you DO know, how do you use that information? That part is on you. How the companies behave is on them. Someone shouldn't nearly drown, but if you see that, do you choose to save them anyway?
I see your point. Do you believe that it is the responsibility of each customer to worry about each person's wage when ever they go to a restaurant,board a bus,board a plane,get a haircut,get their car fixed,get a massage,get a facial,etc...?

I am not anti-tipping as people who wish to tip should tip and should be free to tip but that should not mean that is should be mandatory and that the customers of any or every business establishment should be paying the difference of the underpaid employee by their employer.
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I see your point. Do you believe that it is the responsibility of each customer to worry about each person's wage when ever they go to a restaurant,board a bus,board a plane,get a haircut,get their car fixed,get a massage,get a facial,etc...?
As someone who earns a measly wage, I do not expect people to tip me because I chose a profession that gets paid poorly. Some jobs come with stress. some jobs come with crappy pay. At the end of the day, if you aren't happy with the wages, supplement your income or find a new job. I choose to just ignore that I don't get paid well and hang out on car forums.

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I see your point. Do you believe that it is the responsibility of each customer to worry about each person's wage when ever they go to a restaurant,board a bus,board a plane,get a haircut,get their car fixed,get a massage,get a facial,etc...?

I am not anti-tipping as people who wish to tip should tip and should be free to tip but that should not mean that is should be mandatory and that the customers of any or every business establishment should be paying the difference of the underpaid employee by their employer.
No I don't. But the expectation of tipping comes from the knowledge that they are laid accordingly. Many people want more of a "pay for performance" environment in the world. Personal responsibility and all that. This is that. Part of a server's pay is solely based on performance. You pay less for your meal (really, you do - if they had to triple or quadruple every servers' wage, you'd have to pay more) and the server's pay is determined by performance. That, and people's general attitude about tipping.
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answer me this one

I went to a local nandos.

Had to order at the counter, then had to pay in advance and had a tip option.
So they bring your food to you, but you go up and get utensils, sauces etc,

WTF

I tipped just to make sure no one spat in my food, but I CERTAINLY wont go back to that hobo joint
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I see your point. Do you believe that it is the responsibility of each customer to worry about each person's wage when ever they go to a restaurant,board a bus,board a plane,get a haircut,get their car fixed,get a massage,get a facial,etc...?

I am not anti-tipping as people who wish to tip should tip and should be free to tip but that should not mean that is should be mandatory and that the customers of any or every business establishment should be paying the difference of the underpaid employee by their employer.
No I don't. But the expectation of tipping comes from the knowledge that they are laid accordingly. Many people want more of a "pay for performance" environment in the world. Personal responsibility and all that. This is that. Part of a server's pay is solely based on performance. You pay less for your meal (really, you do - if they had to triple or quadruple every servers' wage, you'd have to pay more) and the server's pay is determined by performance. That, and people's general attitude about tipping.
Do you think that the customer is responsible for the pay for performance part or employer is?

Remember that customers could be from out of state or even out of country. Each customer can not be expected to know whether or not the the business establishment that they entered pays their employees the minimum wage, a wage under minimum wage or a wage over minimum wage.
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Do you think that the customer is responsible for the pay for performance part or employer is?

Remember that customers could be from out of state or even out of country. Each customer can not be expected to know whether or not the the business establishment that they entered pays their employees the minimum wage, a wage under minimum wage or a wage over minimum wage.
What do I think it SHOULD be? Or what do I know that it IS? In a hypothetical perfect world, all the service would be great and tipping would be obsolete. After my dessert of baked rainbows on a warm cloud and a warm mug of essence of unicorn, I would leave in my flying car and the server would be paid accordingly. In the world I live in, I know it is up to me and I deal with it.
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As usual, much relevant information is missing.

Would be REALLY interesting to know whether the average server made more or less. Or, better yet, was the average receipt (per meal) higher or lower?

Where did it work best, where did it not work?

Were the ticket per meal numbers the same where business increased as it was where it decreased?

Customer satisfaction can be, I suppose, expressed really only in terms of people leaving, on the negative side, or higher repeat or same store sales, on the positive side.
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