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      02-29-2024, 01:07 PM   #6953
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WOW, this tread really migrated from EV's wanting to Environmental mumbo jumbo.

I do think that Human Kind is badly hurting the environment and that we should do something about it ASAP.

BUT, that still not makes me want an EV P.O.S., like Tesla or Kia, ... a Taycan, maybe.
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      02-29-2024, 01:41 PM   #6954
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I do think that Human Kind is badly hurting the environment and that we should do something about it ASAP.
The hubris of man is that he thinks he matters. In the 12 hour clock below (4.5 billion years) mans existence starts at 11:59:58




So now tell me how your EV is going to make a difference again? You have 1/10th of a second
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Reminds me of this:
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''The planet is fine, the ppl are F*d''- do you copy, Greta Thumberg
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      02-29-2024, 03:33 PM   #6957
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The hubris of man is that he thinks he matters. In the 12 hour clock below (4.5 billion years) mans existence starts at 11:59:58




So now tell me how your EV is going to make a difference again? You have 1/10th of a second
Completely out of context.

Then do nothing but go use your time and see if you can or can not get sick, poisoned or cancer by leaving in polluted areas.

Why is people so selfish? In an out if context 1/10 of a second... I can keep polluting and the next generations be dammed.
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      02-29-2024, 05:12 PM   #6958
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Completely out of context.
There is smart and there is stupid. EV's, carbon taxes stupid, conservation of resources smart. Class dismissed.
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      02-29-2024, 05:32 PM   #6959
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Reminds me of this:
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I call the BIG Electron, "The Mighty Algorithm Writer".

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Completely out of context.

Then do nothing but go use your time and see if you can or can not get sick, poisoned or cancer by leaving in polluted areas.

Why is people so selfish? In an out if context 1/10 of a second... I can keep polluting and the next generations be dammed.
Do you mean why are people selfish? I'm don't know what makes you think they are? I care deeply about the environment. I had a project of a solar car back in one of my engineering classes.

The issue isn't whether people care about the environment or not, it's about what's really going on. Our politicians are actually doing more harm than good in the false narrative of protecting the environment when it's really about more power and control. They don't give a damn about the environment.

I have a question for you and those who think like you do. When are you going to open your brain, use some common sense and see what's really going on and stop thinking like road kill?
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      03-01-2024, 05:59 AM   #6961
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Completely out of context.

Then do nothing but go use your time and see if you can or can not get sick, poisoned or cancer by leaving in polluted areas.

Why is people so selfish? In an out if context 1/10 of a second... I can keep polluting and the next generations be dammed.
China touts how many EV's they have. They don't tout that they are building coal powered power plants as fast as they can. Guess at the emission controls on them. China by itself literally makes what every other country does meaningless. Yet we are still going to screw our economy into the ground trying to meet net zero targets, insanity, as in Green Insanity.

The Green Insanity is about having a club to wield power over the masses.
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      03-01-2024, 06:11 AM   #6962
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Do you mean why are people selfish? I'm don't know what makes you think they are? I care deeply about the environment. I had a project of a solar car back in one of my engineering classes.

The issue isn't whether people care about the environment or not, it's about what's really going on. Our politicians are actually doing more harm than good in the false narrative of protecting the environment when it's really about more power and control. They don't give a damn about the environment.

I have a question for you and those who think like you do. When are you going to open your brain, use some common sense and see what's really going on and stop thinking like road kill?

Too far gone.

This flag, that flag. This war needs bombs and billions, that one needs to stop immediately. You're the wrong color, you're the right color. Believe women but not those women. Gun ownership bad but our private gun toting security is fine.We're all going to die from climate change but rivers of fentanyl aren't our problem. Kick the vets out and put those "newcomers" in. Newcomers...

Their hemispheres have been sudsed beyond repair.
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Completely out of context.

Then do nothing but go use your time and see if you can or can not get sick, poisoned or cancer by leaving in polluted areas.

Why is people so selfish? In an out if context 1/10 of a second... I can keep polluting and the next generations be dammed.
Talk about out of context. Environmental pollution that can cause cancer is separate from what are believed as green house gas emissions that affect the climate cycle by altering the natural energy absorption/dissipation of the Earth's atmosphere.

That is what aggravates me, I get preached to constantly to "believe the science" when most of the preachers don't understand the effing subject matter.
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Too far gone.

This flag, that flag. This war needs bombs and billions, that one needs to stop immediately. You're the wrong color, you're the right color. Believe women but not those women. Gun ownership bad but our private gun toting security is fine.We're all going to die from climate change but rivers of fentanyl aren't our problem. Kick the vets out and put those "newcomers" in. Newcomers...

Their hemispheres have been sudsed beyond repair.
Well said. Sir.
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Ford slashes price of EV after sales drop by over 50% — see how much money you can save
March 1, 2024
You can now pick up a 2023 Rear-Wheel Drive Mustang Mach-E for $39,895, according to Green Car Reports, marking a $3,100 price reduction.
But bigger savings can be made elsewhere, with an $8,100 cut on the Premium RWD (Extended Range), Premium All-Wheel Drive (Extended Range), and California Route 1 AWD. The former can be snagged for $45,895, while the latter two can be purchased for $48,895. Green Car Reports offered a full breakdown of the savings by model.
As Reuters reported, via CNBC, Ford has said sales of the Mach-E in the United States fell by 51% in January, while the Mach-E and other models also lost eligibility for a $3,750 tax credit.
https://www.thecooldown.com/green-bu...ice-reduction/

And the race to the bottom is on.
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When facts don't matter there is always Harvard University.

Deaths from fossil fuel emissions higher than previously thought
More than 8 million people died in 2018 from fossil fuel pollution, significantly higher than previous research suggested, according to new research from Harvard University, in collaboration with the University of Birmingham, the University of Leicester and University College London. Researchers estimated that exposure to particulate matter from fossil fuel emissions accounted for 18 percent of total global deaths in 2018 — a little less than 1 out of 5.
“Our study adds to the mounting evidence that air pollution from ongoing dependence on fossil fuels is detrimental to global health,” said Marais. “We can’t in good conscience continue to rely on fossil fuels, when we know that there are such severe effects on health and viable, cleaner alternatives.”
https://seas.harvard.edu/news/2021/0...iously-thought

In a unrelated study 4 in 5 college professors are idiots.

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Ford slashes price of EV after sales drop by over 50% — see how much money you can save
March 1, 2024
You can now pick up a 2023 Rear-Wheel Drive Mustang Mach-E for $39,895, according to Green Car Reports, marking a $3,100 price reduction.
But bigger savings can be made elsewhere, with an $8,100 cut on the Premium RWD (Extended Range), Premium All-Wheel Drive (Extended Range), and California Route 1 AWD. The former can be snagged for $45,895, while the latter two can be purchased for $48,895. Green Car Reports offered a full breakdown of the savings by model.
As Reuters reported, via CNBC, Ford has said sales of the Mach-E in the United States fell by 51% in January, while the Mach-E and other models also lost eligibility for a $3,750 tax credit.
https://www.thecooldown.com/green-bu...ice-reduction/

And the race to the bottom is on.
It will be interesting to see if access to Tesla's charging network, which went live yesterday, will help boost sales of the Mach E.
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Deaths from fossil fuel emissions higher than previously thought
More than 8 million people died in 2018 from fossil fuel pollution, significantly higher than previous research suggested, according to new research from Harvard University, in collaboration with the University of Birmingham, the University of Leicester and University College London. Researchers estimated that exposure to particulate matter from fossil fuel emissions accounted for 18 percent of total global deaths in 2018 — a little less than 1 out of 5.
“Our study adds to the mounting evidence that air pollution from ongoing dependence on fossil fuels is detrimental to global health,” said Marais. “We can’t in good conscience continue to rely on fossil fuels, when we know that there are such severe effects on health and viable, cleaner alternatives.”
https://seas.harvard.edu/news/2021/0...iously-thought

In a realated study 4 in 5 college professors are idiots.
I take such studies with the same amount of validation I do with anthropogenic climate change studies. A math exercise, which the results are not provable.
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When facts don't matter there is always Harvard University.

Deaths from fossil fuel emissions higher than previously thought
More than 8 million people died in 2018 from fossil fuel pollution, significantly higher than previous research suggested, according to new research from Harvard University, in collaboration with the University of Birmingham, the University of Leicester and University College London. Researchers estimated that exposure to particulate matter from fossil fuel emissions accounted for 18 percent of total global deaths in 2018 — a little less than 1 out of 5.
“Our study adds to the mounting evidence that air pollution from ongoing dependence on fossil fuels is detrimental to global health,” said Marais. “We can’t in good conscience continue to rely on fossil fuels, when we know that there are such severe effects on health and viable, cleaner alternatives.”
https://seas.harvard.edu/news/2021/0...iously-thought

In a realated study 4 in 5 college professors are idiots.
Such a woke joke.
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I take such studies with the same amount of validation I do with anthropogenic climate change studies. A math exercise, which the results are not provable.
I love occasionally like to check in on the Chicken Little sky is falling crowd.
These days The Onion and Babylon Bee can't keep up with these fools.

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Deaths from fossil fuel emissions higher than previously thought
More than 8 million people died in 2018 from fossil fuel pollution, significantly higher than previous research suggested, according to new research from Harvard University, in collaboration with the University of Birmingham, the University of Leicester and University College London. Researchers estimated that exposure to particulate matter from fossil fuel emissions accounted for 18 percent of total global deaths in 2018 — a little less than 1 out of 5.
“Our study adds to the mounting evidence that air pollution from ongoing dependence on fossil fuels is detrimental to global health,” said Marais. “We can’t in good conscience continue to rely on fossil fuels, when we know that there are such severe effects on health and viable, cleaner alternatives.”
https://seas.harvard.edu/news/2021/0...iously-thought

In a unrelated study 4 in 5 college professors are idiots.
In a unrelated study 4 in 5 college professors are idiots. I totally agree. Most of the professors I deal with when I was getting my engineering degree can't even teach. They are excellent on doing their own research and live in their own circle but that is about it
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It will be interesting to see if access to Tesla's charging network, which went live yesterday, will help boost sales of the Mach E.
Considering the Mach E costs more than a Model Y, is slower, has worse range, and is also just as much a POS as the Y, probably not. Just useful for the like 15 people who bought them.
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In a unrelated study 4 in 5 college professors are idiots. I totally agree. Most of the professors I deal with when I was getting my engineering degree can't even teach. They are excellent on doing their own research and live in their own circle but that is about it
4 in 5 is pretty low I think.

There are a handful of professors that retired from successful careers and then decided to teach in their retirement. You have a better chance of getting one of them in a place that's nice to retire to, like the beach in FL.

The vast majority of professors though are either corrupt government grant vacuums that just live for their kickback of that government funding, or people who couldn't hack it in the professional world and never left academia so they could stay in Fantasyland.
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