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      07-16-2015, 03:41 AM   #1
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Fifth Gear: Porsche 911 GT3 vs. Ferrari 458 Specialie (Chris Harris vs. Tiff Needell)



Love both these cars and both presenters!!

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/wat...-track-battle/


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Love both these cars and both presenters!!
I would have preferred to have seen the head to head at a decent track (Castle is pretty rubbish) and in the dry.
And Tiff should have at least asked someone how to pronounce "Specialie" correctly!
But still a fun race.
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      07-16-2015, 08:59 AM   #3
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Epic battle, I love both those fellas.
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      07-16-2015, 11:26 AM   #4
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In reality, if Tiff had driven the Porsche, he would have won. Harris is a good driver but Tiff is one of the best.
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      07-16-2015, 11:51 AM   #5
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In reality, if Tiff had driven the Porsche, he would have won. Harris is a good driver but Tiff is one of the best.
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I like Chris Harris' car reviews and he has some great commentary but as a driver Tiff is much better. Jason Plato was a more comparable driver to Tiff when they did track battles.
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      07-17-2015, 07:43 PM   #6
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Yeah, Harris does compete in some racing nowadays but Tiff is highly experienced and one of the fastest drivers...he went on a Lambo racing team drove in the wet on a show and was getting faster times than the team's hotshot young drivers. Also in this vid, I think he let Harris pass to make it interesting..that last half lap had Tiff pulling away big time through the turns and the straights.

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I like Chris Harris' car reviews and he has some great commentary but as a driver Tiff is much better. Jason Plato was a more comparable driver to Tiff when they did track battles.
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      07-17-2015, 08:01 PM   #7
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Tiff seemed he was being a little sloppy, to make the video more interesting.
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      07-17-2015, 08:04 PM   #8
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I have always enjoyed videos with commentaries by Tiff, funny guy, thanks for sharing!
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      07-17-2015, 08:53 PM   #9
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In reality, if Tiff had driven the Porsche, he would have won. Harris is a good driver but Tiff is one of the best.
I don't know about that...the Ferrari is much faster in a straight line. Just look at the race start and the straights. Tiff sandbagged a bit and let it get loose on him to make it interesting, but the Ferrari has a big performance advantage.
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I met Tiff at a Porsche corporate track day years ago...was a genuinely nice person.

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Also worth noting, is that Chris owns (or has owned) a GT3 RS himself... He's certainly no slouch though - I'm sure correcting that car from oversteer - at those speeds especially - takes skill...
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Great video .. two of my three favorite presenters.
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Really great-thanks!
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I don't know about that...the Ferrari is much faster in a straight line. Just look at the race start and the straights. Tiff sandbagged a bit and let it get loose on him to make it interesting, but the Ferrari has a big performance advantage.
I think the argument of "who is the better driver" is a moot point really, they are both IMO equally skilled and while I'd agree that Tiff made a point to drive the car in a more entertaining manner, the GT3 never stood a chance.

Id like to see a 10 lap showdown between the both in equal machinery
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Also worth noting, is that Chris owns (or has owned) a GT3 RS himself... He's certainly no slouch though - I'm sure correcting that car from oversteer - at those speeds especially - takes skill...
He had the 997.2 4.0. Now he drives a 991 GTS
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Great video .. two of my three favorite presenters.
Whos the other?
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      07-27-2015, 11:45 AM   #17
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Great vid. However, I would have liked to see the Speciale up against a GT3 RS.
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Whos the other?
take a wild guess
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take a wild guess
My guess would be Clarkson but who knows lol.
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My guess would be Clarkson but who knows lol.
that would be mine as well
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hahaha .. yeah it would be Clarkson
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