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      01-09-2024, 03:49 PM   #8031
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The radio running the entire time, etc. makes EV’s largely useless as a dedicated patrol vehicle.


Yeah, very care for the current leadership of LASD.
I'm just thinking about the number of times my Scout Car sat with the roof lights running, computer etc on and AC or Heat on a traffic point, and then the car had to be turned over to my relief for his/her 12 hours shift. I'd fill up at the gas pump out back of the station, how does it work when it takes 2 hours to recharge the battery. Oh and the last Division I worked in had 24 Scout Cars on the road.
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I'm just thinking about the number of times my Scout Car sat with the roof lights running, computer etc on and AC or Heat on a traffic point, and then the car had to be turned over to my relief for his/her 12 hours shift. I'd fill up at the gas pump out back of the station, how does it work when it takes 2 hours to recharge the battery. Oh and the last Division I worked in had 24 Scout Cars on the road.
Exactly! There’s just too much going on with a patrol car for an EV to be even remotely useful.
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      01-10-2024, 02:11 AM   #8033
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Exactly! There’s just too much going on with a patrol car for an EV to be even remotely useful.

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https://www.edenprairie.org/Home/Com.../News/10271/28
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      01-10-2024, 06:52 AM   #8034
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So that article is from July 2021. Says a 100,000 mile test. I'd think that if it was being used for regular patrol work it would hit that target in 2-3 years. Most police departments don't keep their patrol cars for 100,000 miles, generally in Canada its 120,000 km, about 75,000 miles.

They should have the results of this test by now. I can't find any reports of ongoing testing or comments.

Eden Prairie is a pretty small department with 78 sworn officers. I don't think most city police departments have that few officers in any one division.
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EP is a $$$ suburb, very low crime, mostly residential.
They are still using a Tesla. I'm not sure if it's the same one, a new one or another one.
I just pass through from time to time, don't live there.

I do remember talking with a state trooper after seeing the EV and asking what he thought about it. He said he was for it in situations. He said the idle time, reduction of contributions to black ice, reduction in operational costs all made it really appealing. Black ice was the major reason all squads in the state stopped using E85.
He said for a city setting it was a good test. But for him it would not be a good fit, they take the cars home with them (most city/county do not).


Here's a bit more about MN's EV patrol push,

https://greatriverenergy.com/initiat...hicle-testing/
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If I had been a police officer, I like to think I would have been like this one when it comes to dealing with today's youth. What a champ.

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      01-13-2024, 07:24 PM   #8037
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If I had been a police officer, I like to think I would have been like this one when it comes to dealing with today's youth. What a champ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbfKV2-My8Q
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      01-13-2024, 07:44 PM   #8038
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We’re hiring!!!
You have an age restriction?
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      01-13-2024, 07:46 PM   #8039
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You have an age restriction?
Not at all!!!! We’ll hire geriatrics. lol!
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      01-14-2024, 06:50 AM   #8040
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Not at all!!!! We’ll hire geriatrics. lol!
According to the inter-web I'm a few years away from geriatric young fella.
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According to the inter-web I'm a few years away from geriatric young fella.
You’re like a 25 year old wrapped in a distinguished gentleman’s shell.
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If I had been a police officer, I like to think I would have been like this one when it comes to dealing with today's youth. What a champ.

I watch these videos and wonder where we are headed as a society. The lack of respect and common courtesy for others in this age is pathetic. Doesn't matter if it's a stranger, police officer or a co-worker. How cops put up with the retarded drunks without using pepper spray and tasers every time baffles me.
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You’re like a 25 year old wrapped in a distinguished gentleman’s shell.
Well played.
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I watch these videos and wonder where we are headed as a society. The lack of respect and common courtesy for others in this age is pathetic. Doesn't matter if it's a stranger, police officer or a co-worker. How cops put up with the retarded drunks without using pepper spray and tasers every time baffles me.
Bodycams were just being discussed when I retired, some officers were dead set against them, I tried to keep an open mind because the public just can't help themselves and it turns out to be true. I remember telling people about the idiots (I'm being polite) and people wouldn't believe me. I'll never say "I've seen it all", but not much surprises me.
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This was hi-tech, we started getting these a few years after I got on the job. If you were a beat officer and were lucky you got a "portable radio", they weighted about 2 pounds, made a good weapon not such a good radio. Often the beat officers didn't get a portable but you were issued 2 dimes on parade (roll call) so you could phone the station or the radio room.
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      01-14-2024, 08:28 AM   #8046
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I'd be curious to know what the opinion of LEOs is on the ideal patrol car. It sure seems like I see a lot of SUVs in the role these days.
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I'd be curious to know what the opinion of LEOs is on the ideal patrol car. It sure seems like I see a lot of SUVs in the role these days.
An SUV for sure. I won’t drive anything but an SUV at work. They’re more comfortable, provide more utility than a car, etc.
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An SUV for sure. I won’t drive anything but an SUV at work. They’re more comfortable, provide more utility than a car, etc.
I like the Crown Vic a lot, it was roomy for the day, comfortable and performed better than anything else that was available. I never got to drive one of the Chargers or the newer Ford Patrol cars and the SUV's were just coming into use before I retired.
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I like the Crown Vic a lot, it was roomy for the day, comfortable and performed better than anything else that was available. I never got to drive one of the Chargers or the newer Ford Patrol cars and the SUV's were just coming into use before I retired.
The Chargers are absolutely horrible.
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Bodycams were just being discussed when I retired, some officers were dead set against them, I tried to keep an open mind because the public just can't help themselves and it turns out to be true. I remember telling people about the idiots (I'm being polite) and people wouldn't believe me. I'll never say "I've seen it all", but not much surprises me.
Extremely eye opening for most of us
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Are there *really* gangs of LASD deputies like the "Industry Indians" beating up teens on the streets, or is that a baseless allegation trying to demonize the police?????
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