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Originally Posted by Litos
you must be high because NEITHER of those guys were on the 1983 All-Star roster 
and it's also hilarious how you used the mediocre borderline allstars versus the best players of the 80's. you honestly picked Joe Johnson !??! JR Smith !?!?  you're really reaching now dude since neither of those two fringe shitbirds made the all-star team in 2013.....
here, let me do the leg work for you like I have so many times.
here are the BEST players from each of the conferences in 1983:
Bird
Erving
M. Malone
Abdul-Jabbar
Magic
now, those guys were great in their time, back when being strong and athletic meant nothing in the NBA...
now compare those guys to the 2013 All-Stars
Bird - Durant
Erving - Bron
M. Malone - K Garnett
Abdul-Jabbar - Dwight Howard
Magic - Kobe
yeah, that 2013 team would WIPE THE FLOOR with those bums. you know Magic and Bird are defensive liabilities, especially if they had to guard a 6'10" assassin like Durant and a tank with the same quickness as Jordan...
also, check out who else was named "All-Star Starters in 1983: Maurice Cheeks and David Thompson HAHAHAHA !!!!!!
the two "worst" starters the 2013 team had were Blake Griffin and Bosh....
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I don't care about all-star "selections". Kobe was selected to be a starter for the West in this year's All-Star game and the guy has played 6 games this season. All-Star selections are NOT a barometer for the "best" players in the league, only the most popular. You of all people should know, Jeremy Lin was voted #4 for the West back court, and nearly made the damn team.
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again, take the elite SG/SF's from the 80's and match them up against the SF/SG's of this era - you'll laugh.
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I did that and matched them up arbitrarily. Guess what? I didn't laugh, no one laughed because there's nothing to laugh about. You may think Joe Johnson is a scrub, but by stats and PERs rating, he's one of the most successful shot guards of this era. If you can name 10 SG's that have a better stat line, and PERs ratings for his position, I'll retract my pick.
JR Smith may be having a scrub season, but since he was with NO, through Denver, up to last year with the Knicks when he won the 6th man of the year award, he has been considered one of the best players at his position in the league coming off the bench. Per 36 minutes his career stats go to 18.5 ppg, 4.5 TRB, and 3.0 assist. Not too shabby.
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Bird - Durant
Erving - Bron
M. Malone - K Garnett
Abdul-Jabbar - Dwight Howard
Magic - Kobe
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Prime Abdul-Jabber schools Howard, and makes him look silly.
Bird - Durant isn't as bad a matchup as you think. Bird in his prime playing in the "real NBA" had stat lines like this.
84-85 Season:
FG - .522
3P% - .427
TRB - 10.5
Ast - 6.6
PPG - 28.7
As good a season as KD is having this year (MVP caliber), his numbers are not going to be that good, except in the PPG category.
Your pick of Moses Malone is confusing. I can name 5 guys in the 80s considered better than him at the position: Charles Barkeley, McHale, Karl Malone, Ralph Sampson (when not injured), and James Worthy. I don't think KG dominates any of these guys, and KG didn't do it against Malone when they matched up, and that was an old declining Malone.
Magic isn't even a shot guard, so I'm not sure why he would be matched against Kobe, and not MJ who was clearly the premier SG of the 80s (and 90s). Maybe because it blows a hole in your "80's guys suck" theory?
Dr. J vs Bron is the only matchup where I favor the modern era player, but prime Dr. J who played in the ABA era would not be a push over by any means, and would be a tough defensive obstacle for Bron, and definitely would give Bron fits on the offensive end.
Again, even with your own picks, you can't pick a blowout of "unathletic clowns from the 80s" like Larry Bird, MJ, Ewing, Hakeem, Kareem, etc.