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      10-07-2009, 06:52 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Guibo View Post
X6M / TL / G37
Skidpad: 0.91g / 0.93g / 0.91g
60-0: 107 / 106 /106
Slalom: 68.6 / 69.2 / 67.8

Those are all pretty close.
These are not
1/4 mi: 12.6 / 15.0 / 13.7

The TL was on Michelin Pilot Sport 2's, which are a pretty good performance tire. But add 1500 lbs to the TL and see how well it performs, even with fatter tires. Or, more relevantly, see how the X6M compares to more direct rivals, Porsche Cayenne and MB ML AMG.
I would not consider the G37 and TL "middle of the road Japanese sedans." These are very accomplished and technically advanced premium-brand Japanese sedans. A Nissan Maxima is a pretty fine Japanese sedan; its performance is considerably worse than the X6M.

That being said, BMW should not be making these monstrosities IMO.
Straight Line speed isn't the hallmark of an M Car. When you compare the M3 to the C63 AMG or the M5 to the RS6, the competition always goes quicker in a line but are a bit behind when thrown some corners.

The TL's PS2's are actually offered with the car, so i think it is only fair to compare it that way and the it has all the luxuries and space you ever need, what is the point of an extra 1500lb (don't get this argument)?

I said middle of the road because both Acura and Nissaniti offer more expensive cars. It would be useless frankly, to compare the Cayenne to this waste of metal, it is an accomplished off roader and the ML has much more space and a properly smile inducing V8 growl (although its perf numbers are a bit poor).

The Nissan Maxima might be an good car but i dont know where it fits in all of this unless you are telling me that all Japanese saloons should be as slow as it is.

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